Public Participation Outreach Committee
Lake Watershed Intermunicipal Organization
Minutes – March 19, 2002
Lynn Leopold, Deb Grantham, Jerry Codner, Sharon Anderson and guest Dennis
Montgomery owner of Cayuga Wooden Boatworks
Montgomery introduced himself, his background and an educational program on an
Erie Canal boat out of Rochester Museum of Science. He saw their presentation
where people in period costume do a program for youth on the history of the
Erie Canal. NYS lotto provides all the pens, pencil etc. for this program.
Through this experience Dennis was inspired to think there should be a similar
“floating classroom” program on Cayuga Lake. One hundred years ago,
Prof Gilbert Harris built a boat in Ithaca for this purpose and ran educational
programs. Dennis has a boat built in Mass for offshore fishing, used in
Alexandria Bay that is diesel powered and Coast Guard certified for about 35
people. He is hoping to restore the boat and use it for education. He would
love to find a 501(c)3 group to associate with and a group to take this project
on. A couple of hours in a classroom and a boat session would work well so the
class could be split in half to make smaller groups. Possible collaborators:
Network, Extension, Sciencenter, PRI, Cornell, Ithaca College, Wells, Cayuga
Nature Center, and girl scouts (their camp that has a dock). Sea Grant might
help with lesson development. Would be good to have the boat run on bio-diesel.
Toad Hollow Farm (Waste Not Resource Recover System) is a local effort to take
fat from renders and refine it. Honda donated motors to a floating classroom.
Dennis is willing to repair his boat and get it to meet Coast Guard safety
regulations. He will be a certified captain in a few weeks.
and possible Instructor:
possible instructor on the boat might be Paul Tatar, is a teacher about to
retire next year who got a TV program to do 6 episodes of Bass fishing in this
area. It would be good to have a variety of curriculums such as geology,
ecology, history, Native American’s relationship with the lake. Might
have a trip that has stops where kids could get out if there is a dock.
Railroad tracks on the east side are rich in fossils. Water monitoring could
include secchi disk, a visit to the RUSS unit, hydrolab from the City of
Ithaca. Would also give youth an experience of being on the lake they might
not otherwise get. USGS may have some equipment that can be towed.
hopes to have the boat ready for a few trial runs over the fall. The decision
was to invite people who we would like to be players and have mini-talks,
sample lessons to showcase what could be offered in the spring 2003. Late April
– Oct would be the season when the boat could operate. Summer might be a
program for families/tourists, CU adult ed and programs for high school
passenger vessel taking people for hire gets very involved and has rigorous
Coast Guard requirements. Even if not Coast Guard certified Dennis would meet
those specs. There are a few things that could be omitted to save some costs
if classified as a Research vessel. For example don’t have to have a
licensed captain. If research vessel than could serve as the lab to go with
the longer program that could take place in classroom. If not linked to a
class, and only take money for boat rides then the vessel has to be Coast Guard
certified. The boat has been certified in the past for 35-39 person occupancy.
Railing would need to be higher if not certified as a Research Vessel.
will identify the partners and work on a list of potential resources, come up
with the general idea, and look for funding. Once the program is running, we
will need someone paid to maintain the program and make sure it all pulls
together, promotes, schedules, etc. For the long run, a “floating
classroom” steering committee will be set up to continue active
involvement and cooperation between all interested organizations. Deb mentioned
that the IO does not have the staff to take on a project of this size, or a
fixed location. It would take grant funding and a dedicated staff person
(probably not full time during the whole year). The Network with a steering
committee would be a possible lead.
have already established these types of programs such as Lake George, St.
Lawrence, and Clearwater on the Hudson. How did they get started? What do
they teach? Various committee members volunteered to look into. Will compare
with other “floating classrooms”. Lake George charges $15 per
person with a 15 person minimum. If Lake George is land locked they would only
need a pilots license. That would reduce their costs. Mary Arthur Bebe is
likely to provide information on how they work. Suggest a field trip to look at
their “floating classroom” program. Karin will contact Mary Arthur
Bebe of the Lake George Association for more information.
made a request for Dennis to get us some information on costs to run, maintain,
captain, insurance. Dennis recommended we bring in the Chamber of Commerce
early. Does it fit in with the waterfront revitalization plan? Finger Lakes
Boating Museum – Dennis is on the Board. Would that help bring in member
is writing a grant from the Great Lakes Aquatic Habitat Network and Fund for
$3,500 for the radio and television mass media campaign. For more immediate
funding needs, Karin will ask the IO for funding for the following 2002 EPOOC
for making slide shows for municipal official others.
PSA recording and ad broadcasting. Jerry will be asked to contact radio
stations for the cost of taping.
Workshops-Modeled after “Neighbors Around Cayuga Lake” workshop, at
2 other locations in the watershed
classroom pilot trips in the Fall-2 promotional trips and 3 pilot educational
additional idea we are looking at is placing ads before movies at Hoyts Cinemas
and other local theaters. Lynn Leopold will find out what the cost of these
ads is and if we can refer people to their local Cooperative Extension Offices
for more information on the PSAs.
will leave the Stenciling of Sewage drains idea for Spring 2003 as we have
enough projects for this Spring!
Tuesday, April 16
2002 from 5:00pm-6:30pm, location TBA
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